Bashan Repair Manual
Hi, Mike for this situation I would call my local dealer or reputable shop's service/parts department and inquire about any possible quick fix, answers, or parts inquiry. If necessary, transport your bike to the dealer or shop and have a professional technician take it for a test drive, if it is in running condition, and give you a written estimate of repairs and answer any specific questions you may have about your problem. Good luck and have nice a day.
Btw, I’m available to help over the phone in case u need at May 06, 2016. Hi, Dafydd once you go pass 100cc there really isn't any restrictions a properly tuned engine, adjusting throttle cable to pull the slide 100% out of the venturi, going to a larger main jet are just a few inexpensive things you can do to improve performance, if you want more power you will need to break into your secret stash of 'DRACHMA' to purchase more expensive performance/speed goodies, for more information about your question and valuable 'FREE' downloads that you will need please click on the links below. Good luck and have a nice day. Btw, I’m available to help over the phone in case u need at Apr 25, 2016.
It has an automatic clutch, electric and kick start, chain drive, 17' wheels and - get this - a four speed foot shift transmission. We bought two. At the bargain price of $490 plus $200 shipping and liftgate we figured we couldn't go wrong. They came with some assembly required, but started up immediately and worked just fine when I was done. I've had experience with a Bashan machine (my scooter was built by them) and these retained the quality and attention to detail I expected.
Not only that but they ride better than my scooter, much to my chagrin and handle more like a motorcycle which is a kick going around turns. Not having an automatic transmission means you have to upshift and downshift on inclines, but without a clutch your foot does all the work. Just roll off the throttle and shift. All in all a worthwhile purchase and a vehicle experiment for the coming years.
The engine looks like a Honda copy, hopefully they will last like one. May 21, 2017 Rating its a mechanics dream scooter NEW by: Anonymous I found one of these on craigslist for $240, it was neglected, rusted fenders, battery corroded, wiring mice ate, carb gummed up and simply did not run. I bought it because the engine had good compression and knew it was a good replacement motor (Lifan) for a Honda Cub but after a couple days tinkering with it I got it running again.
I was amazed how good the engine and gear box is. The frame is simple and duable, the wheels and gears let me travel back country gravel roads where no scooter would dare to go. Its a keeper. Jun 30, 2016 Rating Suspicions NEW by: Jim Zeiser The engine identification number has a 'P' in it. There was a story circulating that Bashan 50cc engines that had a P in their ID's were secret 62cc motors.
I only know that mine doesn't act like a 50cc engine. It will do 50 mph on a level road. Climbs some steep hills in second gear like a Mountain Goat pulls fairly well in all gear.
What I'm trying to say is that going to a 72cc big bore kit may not net you much in comparison but if you feel the need for speed, go with it. Jul 21, 2015 Rating Some issues with engine's valves NEW by: Venus HI Everyone, I have a question. Back in January, I was using my Roketa to move around at work. I started to notice that it didn't have enough power so i thought it was a carb problem. Silly me, I put a 'cheap' carb liquid cleaner in the tank. It was running fine until I heard a big pop sound coming from the engine.
After inspection, I realized that the intake valve stem broke-it looks like a metal ring on top of the spring-to make my story short. After a few months when I finally had time, I decided to just get a new complete head assembly-the one that brings everything installed already: valves and roker arms installed. Those valve spring are a hell to install.
So, I was happy that my moped would be running again. But, I have problem now. Before installing the new head back, I wanted to adjust the valves, but not matter what I do, the clearance is too wide between the pin and the valve spring on the new head.Even if the screw the pin all the way in, it won't have space for the nut that hold it. At some point I thought it was a Cam timing issue, so I made sure that I had the proper timing, but still the clearance in the valve's pins is too wide.
And i believe that might be a reason why my moped doesn't start. Thus, I wanted to ask on this forum to the knowledgeable people what they think my valve problem could be. I also would like to add that i took all the old(stalled) gas out of the tank and will put new fresh gas in, and will try to get it started. But, in the mean time if someone understood and have an idea of what I might be doing wrong, please advice me.
It will be appreciated. I am dismayed that it is such a nice weather in NYC, and I can't use my moped:(. May 11, 2015 Rating keeping it running NEW by: mfetter Hey there, Thanks for this site, it has been a huge help since I bought my bashan bike. Hoping to get some help here, when my bike arrived (with the terrible operating instructions) it was difficult to get started but eventually I did. I left it to idle for 2-3 minutes but when I pop it into gear it will only stay on for about a minute before dying out.
I have since started it 20-30 times and same thing. Starts right up but dies out as soon as I start to ride it. Thanks!, Matt. Oct 09, 2014 Rating ROKETA MC-114 ROCKS!! NEW by: VENUS-NYCGIRL This moped is awesome!
Exactly what i wanted. It took me some time to figure the moped out, since i was very new about motorcycles, and here in Manhattan,NY; no motorcycle shop wanted to do the PDI because they said:' Chinese parts are hard to find'. Pardon me, but that is BS! Anyways, with the free technical support I received from the online dealer i bought it from, and a Roketa Tech, I got my moped together and ready. I am now a happy camper with my moped. She runs great! I must say that from reading advice from the moped people online.
I changed the stock CDI, Ignition Coil, Spark Plug( to Iridium one), and oil to high performance parts and I use Rotella 15w40 oil. I am slowing breaking the engine down by riding it for 1 hour or so every weekend, or about 50 miles. I am very very excited with my choice of a scooter.
My moped is just awesome! And now even more that I understand her.LOL!
By the way, I got it from ExtremeScooters.BIZ I am very big in customer service, and so far Chad at.BIZ along with the Roketa People, Cathy and Travis, have been very helpful and patient with me. If anyone has any questions about this moped, please feel free to ask me:). Oct 07, 2014 Rating Idle Screw NEW by: Jim Zeiser Without a picture it's hard, but basically it's the one that's halfway back on the carburetor parallel to the ground.
The idle mixture screw on mine was capped and I had to remove the cap to get at it. The idle mixture screw was near the front of the carburetor pointing up at an angle.
The idle screw is on the left side of the bike staring right at you in the middle of the carb just above the float bowl. Hope that helps. These things are very tight when new. I carefully broke in the one I kept and it took over 1,000 miles before the engine fully loosened up. If you adjust it now I guarantee later you'll adjust it back. Jun 23, 2014 Rating I Don't Understand NEW by: Jim Zeiser Why every motorcycle dealer in the country isn't carrying these bikes. He's right about the 60 mph on a slight downgrade, I've done it myself.
On a level road, 50 to 55 mph is attainable easily. I'm getting 120+ mpg all the time and I have hills to climb here. One day I'm going to load this bike in my minivan and go to Long Island, NY which is the flattest place on earth and see how it does there. In the meantime these bikes are stone ax reliable and are a bargain, no, a screaming bargain. A dealer could prep them, send them out the door and never see them again. It's crazy they're not all over the place. Mine is now five years old and running better than new.
Jun 23, 2014 Rating Its true. NEW by: jeffthecatman I jusss bought a 2014 model of the bashan bs49q-2 50cc 4 stroke 4 speed with the 5 spoke aluminum rims.
Could not be happier. Obviously the quality in the plastic chinese parts lacked but the engine and frame itself is tough. I beat on this engine for hours daily and have not had any mechanical issues aside from a broken speedo line(from my carelessness by kinking it)which is also easily replaceable. Aside from that it shifts like a dream HAULING downhill at over 60mph and going uphill you can just pop the gas n upshift and it can get you up any hill garunteed. I can get up any hill in 2nd so i imagine heavier people would have no problem sluggin up the hill in first gear. I tried to find info on these bikes before purchasing them and have only found comments by this jim zeiser man and i had to find out for myself. And now im letting everyone else know that this bike is legit.
Jun 22, 2014 Rating JIM IS RIGHT,BOYS!!! NEW by: Twaddy38 JIM, Z. I ALSO OWNED AND OWN A BASHAN BSQ48-MOPED AND ITS REALLY NOT A MOPED. IT RIDES AND PERFORMS BETTER THAN MOST MOTORCYCLES AND SCOOTERS THAT ARE ON THE MARKET TODAY!!! I HAD ONE IN 2009 AND FOOLISHLY SOLD IT;WISHING LATER I NEVER DID AND MADE A BIG MISTAKE. SOLD IT BECAUSE I WANTED A BIGGED CC ENGINE.
DIDN,T MATTER. I BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND AM EVER SO PLEASED WITH IT. WILL NEVER SELL IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS SO DAMN FOOLPROOF AND EASILY MAINTAINED. WHO CARES ABOUT POWER WHEN THIS THING CAN EASILY GET ME FROM POINT A TO B AND BACK AGAIN WITHOUT A WORRY OR CARE ABOUT RELIABILY. I RECENTLY WENT ON A TRIP TO LEBANON,NH WHICH IS 40 MILES ONE WAY FROM MY HOUSE AND BACK WITHOUT A HITCH AND WAS HAPPY ALL THE WAY. MANY COMMENTS FROM FOLK SO. ENJOY ALL YOUR EXPENSIVE MOPEDS AND SCOOTS BUT I AM KEEPING THIS ONE FOR GOOD.
PART OF MY ESTATE. (AND I HAVE OWNED MANY MOTORCYCLES AND TOMOS MOPEDS IN THE PAST, VESPA, HONDAS, ETC. Jun 22, 2014 Rating JIM IS RIGHT,BOYS!!! NEW by: Twaddy38 JIM, Z. I ALSO OWNED AND OWN A BASHAN BSQ48-MOPED AND ITS REALLY NOT A MOPED. IT RIDES AND PERFORMS BETTER THAN MOST MOTORCYCLES AND SCOOTERS THAT ARE ON THE MARKET TODAY!!! I HAD ONE IN 2009 AND FOOLISHLY SOLD IT;WISHING LATER I NEVER DID AND MADE A BIG MISTAKE.
SOLD IT BECAUSE I WANTED A BIGGED CC ENGINE. DIDN,T MATTER. I BOUGHT ANOTHER ONE IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR AND AM EVER SO PLEASED WITH IT. WILL NEVER SELL IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS SO DAMN FOOLPROOF AND EASILY MAINTAINED. WHO CARES ABOUT POWER WHEN THIS THING CAN EASILY GET ME FROM POINT A TO B AND BACK AGAIN WITHOUT A WORRY OR CARE ABOUT RELIABILY. I RECENTLY WENT ON A TRIP TO LEBANON,NH WHICH IS 40 MILES ONE WAY FROM MY HOUSE AND BACK WITHOUT A HITCH AND WAS HAPPY ALL THE WAY. MANY COMMENTS FROM FOLK SO.
ENJOY ALL YOUR EXPENSIVE MOPEDS AND SCOOTS BUT I AM KEEPING THIS ONE FOR GOOD. PART OF MY ESTATE. (AND I HAVE OWNED MANY MOTORCYCLES AND TOMOS MOPEDS IN THE PAST, VESPA, HONDAS, ETC. Jun 18, 2014 Rating More Silliness NEW by: Jim Zeiser My 50cc Bashan is pushing 4,000 trouble free miles, while the other two China scooters both have over 8,000 miles each.
I fail to believe that I got the only three good bikes out of China and there are many more people like me. Go to Youtube and look up Acworthpatrick. He has an Automoto with a Chinese GY6 engine that has 50,000 miles on it.
He just sold a Baccio 150cc China scoot with 47,000 miles on it since he has too many toys. My 50cc Bashan is not only as good as many of the brands you mentioned, but better than all the 50cc scooters from all of them and I've worked on more than a few bikes in my time.
BTW, I'm 62 years old, have been riding for 52 years and have over 200,000 miles of street riding under my wheels. My first street ride was a 650cc BSA Lightning. There's nothing wrong with any China scooter or motorcycle that a good owner won't cure. Jun 18, 2014 Rating scooter /bashan NEW by: james i have a lot of years riding motorcycles/and scooters and would stay away from the chinese ones.mechanics see them in the shop way 2 much!i would say that yamaha/honda/vespa/piaggio/are very dependable.some people like the kymco also.i have a yamaha 125cc riva.and it alwayz has been very reliable and good power.i took off the stock air box and put on a hi performance air filter pulling about 62 mph.take in mind also my scooter is a 1985.the old japanese scooters in my mind are some of the best.keep them maintained and there good 2 go!! May 21, 2014 Rating Confused NEW by: Jim Zeiser When I got mine all the mechanicals engine-wise were assembled.
All I had to do was install the front wheel, handlebars and bolt on the passenger seat. The only thing left after that was put acid in the battery, charge it and slide it in. You're the second person who said this. The first thing I would do is remove the spark plug, plug it back into the ignition lead, put the plug against the head and spin the motor to see if you have spark. If you do, spray some starter fluid into the open spark plug hole, reinstall the plug and see if it starts. OH, very important!
Be very sure you're pulling all the way up on the choke. These things need full choke to start even in the hottest weather. Even after 3,500 miles mine won't start without it. May 20, 2014 Rating Update For The Best NEW by: Jim Zeiser When I bought these bikes five years ago I would never have imagined how good they would be. In truth I sold the blue one two years ago for exactly what I paid for it. My stepsons never used the bikes and after three years the blue one only had 300 miles on it, mostly from me.
The black one was equipped with a milk crate and it has served in about every capacity you can imagine. Errand bike, trip machine and commuter. Last summer I used it to do two separate 80 mile rides. The first was to take some forgotten audio accessories to my stepson at his summer job in a 4H camp. The second was a run to Harbor Freight in Binghamton. The Binghamton trip was its first time in urban traffic and it did fine.
At many points I was seeing 50 mph on the speedometer and it held its place in traffic. Two screws have vibrated out and were replaced, one battery wore out after three years (the original Chinese one) and one tail light bulb wore out. It only has 3,500 miles on it since it does mostly short runs of eight miles at a time but I would recommend one of these to anybody.
More durable than most 50cc scooters, certainly faster than most 50cc scooters that are stock and this handles like a dream. Looking for a 50cc machine? Buy this one. It's worth every penny.
I see myself owning this for many years to come. May 12, 2014 Rating The Silliness NEW by: Jim Zeiser These bikes don't have a separate oil. There is only one place to fill the oil supply. It's on the right side by the kickstarter. Scooters have a separate case for the transmission and they take 85W-90 oil. The oil supply for a scooter is in the same place as the Bashan. Right side, behind the fan opening.
The idle set screw is on the left side, near the front of the carburetor. Idle speed should be set when the engine is warm. It's just above the intake manifold. May 12, 2014 Rating you did good NEW by: Anonymous Thanks to you I found the complete parts list @Roketa. I was told by the saler that the gear grease had to be changed at 2,000 miles but cannot locate where to do this. What type of oil do you use. The book says 10w40 the tech told me to use 10w30, I get 200m/gal.
After taking it to Scooterville for some repairs it would stall and it never did this before I took it there.where should the carborator screw be set.I say them turning it. For those out there looking for one the place above has 3 different kinds and mine is the BS490-2 $800 delivered to the door.
Feb 05, 2014 Rating Petcock NEW by: Jim Zeiser In between the gas tank and carburetor is a manual fuel valve. Make sure the valve is turned to on. I'm baffled as to why you even had to deal with the fuel line. Mine came already hooked up.
You don't need to hold on the brake either. I had a great deal of trouble getting one of mine to start but it eventually fired with the electric start.
The beauty of these bikes is they have alternate starting methods. There is a kick start lever on the right side and if you put the bike in third gear it can be started by pushing it. Been there, have done both. Feb 05, 2014 Rating Wont start! NEW by: Kendra Hi, I recently purchased this model and had some trouble with assembling everything ( i did not realize it would be as much assembly as it was). Ive never owned one before nor do I have any experience with small engines.anyway I have everything put together correctly ( I think) but I struggled with the fuel lines as I could not find any reference to them in the manual. I can't get the bike to start, it acts like it wants to turn over but it just won't.
I have it in neutral, gas in the tank, choke open, brake on, etc. I can't figure out what i'm doing wrong.
Any feedback would be appreciated.thanks! Feb 05, 2014 Rating Wont start!
NEW by: Kendra Hi, I recently purchased this model and had some trouble with assembling everything ( i did not realize it would be as much assembly as it was). Ive never owned one before nor do I have any experience with small engines.anyway I have everything put together correctly ( I think) but I struggled with the fuel lines as I could not find any reference to them in the manual. I can't get the bike to start, it acts like it wants to turn over but it just won't. I have it in neutral, gas in the tank, choke open, brake on, etc. I can't figure out what i'm doing wrong. Any feedback would be appreciated.thanks! Jun 16, 2012 Rating Killer Motorsports NEW by: Johnny Urive Hi Jim thanks for that evaluation on how the scooters are holding up.
Sounds good for a chinese scooter product. After all, name brand cameras, computers, even American knife companys, etc, are having their products made in China.:( I commented here on the forum back in April about Killer Motorsports. They only had the pedal version then. I see they now carry the 3-speed clutchless model, cool. I thought the pedals would be nice.
You reported that you heard it was much slower than the tranny version. Just checked out Superior Powersports.
They are running a fathers Day Special this weekend. Got the RK 50cc type 114 for $544. That's as low as I've seen on mail order.
Just want to say I am posting this information as common interested to others. I do not work for any of these dealers.
Just like little scooters. I've admired these little ones since I first heard and read about them.:). Jun 15, 2012 Rating Quality NEW by: Jim Zeiser I keep mine in a garage so they aren't exposed to the elements.
The blue one is the least used and still looks like new. The black one has been around the block a few times and has my usual patina of dust with some road grit. Neither bike has had anything replaced. The tires look like new and all the chrome bits still shine. I need to have at least 10,000 miles on something before I make blanket statements about reliability but so far these mopeds have been faultless. I personally would put them up against any 50cc machine out of anywhere based on what I've read about their competitors from Taiwan, Japan or Europe.
I had the blue one out today and it cruised at 35 mph quite easily. The black one runs near 40 most of the time since it has more miles and runs harder. I might hedge about Chinese scooters and how they fare for the average person, but not these. Jun 09, 2012 Rating Bullet Proof NEW by: Jim Zeiser I haven't put as many miles on these as I would like since they're suppose to be my stepsons but in three years they have been almost completely trouble free. Someone told me that she saw a You Tube story of someone with 20,000 miles on one and she was in love with it.The only trouble I've had with one was that one of the nuts holding the exhaust pipe on the head rattled. Other than that they've run like Hondas.
You can buy them from Countyimports.com but I'm only recommending the bikes, not the seller. Powersportsmax.com sells a 125cc version that I'd love to ride someday for around $1500 shipped. I'd bet it could run all day at 50+ mph. I recommend these 50cc Bashans highly. They're great. Apr 26, 2012 Rating thanks again for the heads-up NEW by: Anonymous Johnny and Jim: That alternative from Killer was the only other larger wheel rim/old school design option I was able to find this spring, and almost went Lazer until I found this model and Jim's comments. If you can find one, whether labelled Bashan or Roketa, there's no comparison- as you know with the chain and gearing, as far as hills, acceleration, overall power and response.
It's a delight-can't wait for warmer weather here in MN! Apr 26, 2012 Rating Information NEW by: Johnny Urive Hello again.
I tried the Roketa site and they are a distributor only. They said they only sell to Lic. They gave me the Super Atvs site but they don't carry this model anymore. I did find this on-line dealer. May be of interest to some readers. Www.countyimports.com These are selling at a little over $900. But not bad, especially if they give service like the models you have.
Much cheaper than some of the Cub-Clones I've been seeing.:) Thanks & good day! Apr 23, 2012 Rating Moped model NEW by: Johnny Urive Ah yes, I didn't re-read your main article before posting. I forgot your models had the auto clutch- shifting.
Just like the Honda Cubs. Those little Cubs did run well. Well thanks for the info. I would not be interested in the moped-pedal version. Nice looking little units, though. I too hope the auto clutch-shifting units get back on market.
Nothing wrong with a chain drive. Sad they don't seem to be as popular.
Your most likely correct about folks more interested in the full auto, clutch-belt drive. Thanks for the info. Have a great day! Apr 23, 2012 Rating Dealer in Fort Worth,TX NEW by: JOhnny Urive Hello. I found a dealer in the Fort Worth,TX area selling a very simular model.
Check them out here; www.killermotorsports.com, It's a moped design with pedals. I am not sure if your models have pedals? Doesn't look like it. I haven't seen these for sale since I first inquired here a while back.
These are more expensive at $999.95. Don't know anything about this dealer. Just thought some folks might be interested. Hope this helps.
Look like nice units. Apr 22, 2012 Rating Fabulous Bike NEW by: Jim Zeiser I have mine going on three years now and they've been almost faultless. I checked Roketa's site and they still list it for sale.
I'm thinking that this bike is suffering from being a manual shift. People are probably buying more twist and go scooters since they think it's easier.
I don't mind shifting and the ease of maintenance is light years ahead of a scooter. Just the sealed chain alone will probably outlast five or six scooter drive belts. I hope they don't disappear. That would really be a shame. Apr 18, 2012 Rating Getting harder to find NEW by: Scott W.
I happened upon your thread while shopping units, and bought based on much posted here. Now own a new 2010 close-out bike for 2 weeks. Just over 35 miles on it. I had a great Batavus in 1981, but this? It's something else.
Thanks for all your comments. I have had little luck getting another on line for less than $750 now, for the stock remaining (is it out of production?)and the one other local in shop in MN offered to me as a close-out at $725 got snapped up before I agreed. Could be a keeper. Will post with questions and keep in touch. Aug 25, 2011 Rating Dilema by: Jim Zeiser Here's what I know about the bikes.
Mine was advertised with a top speed of 50 kph (kilometers per hour) on a site no longer in business. That's about 31 mph. It's rated at 3 horsepower, the standard number for Chinese 50cc engines. In many states the law reads 'No external shifting device' for a vehicle to be a moped. I live in the boonies and the lady at DMV didn't ask, I didn't tell, about the particulars of the bikes. Only what the top speed was, to which I answered '30 mph'.
The no external shifting is why scooters, even 50cc Vespas at $3300, are rated as mopeds. Frankly I can't see penalizing something just because it shifts but I don't write the laws. I spent a couple of hours trying to find someone who still sells them but came up empty. That's as much as I know. Aug 23, 2011 Rating Need help in SC! By: Ruthie Hey Jim - trying to gather info on the BS48Q-2 moped.
DMV here says anything 50 cc and under is a moped. This was sold to us as a moped so I purchased it for my daughter to get to work as she has a suspended license. And officer stopped her today and she went to jail because he contends it is a motorcycle, not a moped because it has gears. Can anyone tell me what the horsepower of this scooter is?
DMV says anything 50 cc and under = moped. But the people who issue the moped tag says it has to meet 3 criteria.50 CC or less, horsepower = no more than 2 and does not go over 30 mph. Where can I find this info? You mention in one of your previous posts that it is advertised at a max speed of 30. Where can I find that to show the powers that be and get my daughter out of trouble?
Apr 05, 2011 Rating Looking for dealers! By: Brian I live in VA and would love to not only test ride on of these, but save the $200 shipping. But looking online I can't find any information on local dealers.
I can only find two places that even sell this model online. Even the Bashan Motorcycle USA site links me to overseas contact info and URLs.
I'll probably order online if I have to, but if anyone can give me a link to dealer information I'd appreciate it. All the local dealers I've talked to don't even know about this moped.:) Thanks! Apr 04, 2011 Rating Apple s and Oranges by: Jim Zeiser The GB and Zuma are pricey little items that are well worth the money that you spend on them.
From what I hear the 50cc Zuma is a rocket and probably climbs hills like a goat. The Bashan performs really well in comparison to Chinese scooters of the same size and, to me, are light years ahead in reliability and quality. Yes, the gearbox helps alot on hills since a quick downshift to third will have you doing 20 mph easily while a Chinese scooter would be struggling to hold 15. Do I think they're worth the money, absolutely. A chain will outlast a belt and rollers by a ton and so far my two mopeds have needed nothing more than oil changes and one valve adjustment. As they get more miles they get faster and stronger, and for what they are work like a charm.
Apr 04, 2011 Rating Advantages of 4-speed transmission? By: Anonymous I'm actually comparing the Zuma and Genuine Buddy right now, but something about this bike keeps drawing my interest, and not just the price!:) I weigh about 240, so a zippy 2 stroke is what I'm looking for, and I'm wondering if there is an acceleration or hill advantage with the Bashan transmission over the CVT used in the Zuma and GB? I live in VA and have no idea if anyone sells Bashan here- Google searches are turning up almost nothing. Not even reviews. If I can't test drive it, it's a big gamble, although for this price I could just let the GF use it and go get the Zuma anyhow.:) I just looks so fun, and if it would be better suited to hauling my butt around, why not save $1300+? Also, is there anything that needs to be de-restricted?
I certainly can't find anything on that topic? Mar 01, 2011 Rating Clutch doesn't slip by: MarkM How do you deal with starting moving or inching along in heavy traffic with a clutch that doesn't slip?
My knees haven't completely healed from trying to ride it for the first time 3 weeks ago. With 1500 rpm idle and no slip, it just jerked out from under me. I was left standing on the pavement trying to hold on to it. It came with an operating manual the shows a manual clutch lever and says nothing about how to use the automatic clutch. Oct 22, 2010 Rating Starting by: Jim Zeiser 'I must get to that idle screw as i am having one heck of a time to start her.' All you can do to get them to warm up is be patient with the manual coke. The black one has been better about it since new, but the blue one.It takes a good few minutes blipping the throttle and holding the choke in various positions to warm it up.
I wanted t adjust the idle mixture but fear damaging the carb unplugging it. I think a small drill will take it out, but I'm living with it-for now. Oct 22, 2010 Rating Idle Screw On Bashan. By: Anonymous Thanks Jim as usual you are the best for scooters as far as info is concerned. (I am sure you are good at other things also, lol) I must get to that idle screw as i am having one heck of a time to start her. We are, as you are probably, having a spell of cold October wind now,here, and it,s not starting up right off like the milano does.
Of couse I am not riding in this cold but I like to be able to start it up. Only got 16 miles since it arrived Monday! Yeah, that d. But can,t it be unplugged or will that mess the carb up!? It reaslly seems to be a great little rider. I wish the weather was better but here we go, into cold Winter. Best Luck and thanks again, Jim.
Oct 22, 2010 Rating Idle Adjustment by: Jim Zeiser To get at the idle screw you have to take off the plastic cover up on the frame behind the gas tank on the left side. The idle mixture screw is also there but it's plugged over because of our friends at the EPA. As I recall you screw the idle screw in to increase engine speed. I used the blue one the other day and it's much tighter than the black one.
It's amazing how much difference 200 miles makes on them. The blue one only has 120 miles while the black one has 330. I would imagine by 1000 miles they are completely different. Oct 12, 2010 Rating Don't Wait by: Jim Zeiser I put off doing mine and broke the valve springs. The valves are spun-welded and stretch, especially the exhaust valve, by the time they reach 1,000 miles. The recommended mileage is 1,000, 2,450 and then every 2,450 after that.
Eventually the scooter will start to stall at stoplights and become hard to start because of the lack of valve clearances. If you don't want to do it a lawn mower repair shop can do it easily and cheaper than a motorcycle shop. Even cheaper if you take off all the plastic panels for them. Oct 12, 2010 Rating Valves by: Jim Zeiser I've never tried doing the shocks and I don't know if you would have the access you would need. Everyone I know agrees on the long torturous method.
Take off both rear fenders, take off the seat, take off the front panel under the seat, take off the side skirts under the floorboard, take out the battery, take off the floorboard. Now you have the engine in front of you and you can get at all the tubes and valve cover. Then adjust the valves.
It takes me about three hours to take everything off, adjust the valves and put it back together. The mopeds-about twenty minutes.
Oct 11, 2010 Rating Valve adjustment on Milano by: carol nelson Thanks, Jim, for your reply. It's nice to know someone else out there is riding a Milano that's not to far from New Hampshire. My son works in NYC on Solar so we get up to NY state. Can I ask you how I can get access to the valves for adjustment?
John at GS Motorworks told me to undo the rear shock bolts, but that seems like a hard thing to do. How do you do your valve adjustments on the Milano? I think I know the procedure; it's just getting to the front of the valve cover! The kid down the road charged me 80 bucks to change over the carb and change the rear tire for a new mount tire I provided, so I think I will try to do the work myself from now on! I got 2,157 miles on her now. Thanks for any advice.
And PLEASE, more riding notes on your wonderful blue Milano. Carol Nelson. Oct 11, 2010 Rating Thanks by: Jim Zeiser I used to visit New Hampshire to see the races at Laconia. We stayed in cabins on Lake Winnipesaukee at Alton Bay. I jumped in the lake one year for a swim and I thought I was going to freeze to death. Nobody told me it was still ice cold the last week of June. I'm glad you enjoy my writing, I'll have to do more of it.
I've been busy so I haven't done anything new on the scooter, but I have an idea that should look well on these pages. Let us know how the Mopeds work out. They're alot of fun. Sep 14, 2010 Rating Another Testimonial by: Jim Zeiser You see, another testimonial! These things are the real deal. I won't say they're a better idea than a Vespa, Kymco or other 50cc scooter since they can't store things under the seat but you can bungy items to the small rack and back seat.
I took off the rear seat pad from one of them, put a milk crate on it and now I have a ton of cargo space for shopping. At over 100 mpg it's perfect for saving gas over the car, not to mention wear and tear. Sep 09, 2010 Rating Not Flogging by: Jim Zeiser Did you see What Rob said: 'The little 50cc engine is going strong and has no trouble hitting 40-mph on the flats.' Mine only has about 300 miles on it and isn't even close to being broken in and I'm not pushing it at all. It cruises at 30 because that's where I'm running it. I had it at 35 one day just to see if it would do it and that was on a slight uphill grade. Where I live there's no such thing as a flat road.
I want to get an electronic tach so I can tell what it's revving before I really push it. They make cheap add ons for not much money that will tell me what I want to know. Sep 08, 2010 Rating Still going strong! Well - mine is at 800 miles and going great. I have just checked the valve clearance (just fine) and adjusted the chain tension. It is doing great! No problems to report whatsoever.
It looks like these little machines just might be built for the long-haul (meaning they should hold up and last for a while), but only time will tell. I can't say I babied mine too much, I used the 'Ride it like you'll ride it' break in method. Plenty of power for its size and no smoke or oil consumption. The little 50cc engine is going strong and has no trouble hitting 40-mph on the flats. I'll keep you guys updated as I keep going.
Sep 08, 2010 Rating Next Great Thing by: Jim Zeiser I think these bikes are the great undiscovered secret. Like the original Honda Cub, they're easy to operate, easy to repair and maintain, and ride like more expensive machines. I had the black one out today to get groceries and it did the job admirably. It cruised at 30 mph easily, climbed hills at 20 mph and after much use filled with four tenths of a gallon. One day soon I'm going to take it on a long ride and see how it fares. As it is, I'd recommend purchasing one to just about anyone looking for solid, reliable transportation in the 30-35 mph range. Jul 15, 2010 Rating I've got one too!
By: Rob H, Hello Jim - I just picked one up earlier this week. No problems, easy assembly, and nice little performer. I have had several 50cc scooters and I can tell you that having gears makes a big difference.
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It seems well built and runs great. I changed oil at 30, 60, and 100 km's to get the glitter/break-in metals out of the engine since there is no oil filter. The oil change at 100 was unnecessary, but it was the only way to be sure. It just seems to keep getting stronger and smoother. Jim - how's your 2 running?
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How many miles? Any problems?
Apr 20, 2010 Rating Look Them Over by: Jim Zeiser On the right side under the seat is an EPA tag. It should say 'Bashan USA' or something like that. Also on the steering head will be a VIN number. Bashans start with LHJ. If it says that you're in business. I've had zero trouble with both of the mopeds since I got them. They run at 25 to 30 mph easily so far and I think 35 will be reachable once they're broken in.
They ride better than my scooter and get over 100 mpg. If you need parts you could get them from the web site I posted. Apr 18, 2010 Rating Information about these mopeds by: Johnny Hi Jim. Writing from Texas. I saw what looks just like these mopeds at a large monthly flea market in the Dallas/Ft Worth area. They claimed to have a warranty but just a sales stand, no shop.
Sure seemed cheap enough. But looks like you would be buying and be on your own. Would you buy from these folk or spend the extra and order from the online folks you recommend? Is Bashan the only manufacturer making this model that you know? The little mopeds look well made.
A battery tender like the Battery Tender Jr. Can make all the difference in whether your scooter will start right up each spring, after being stored for months. Just about every scooter owner needs to have a battery tender, sometimes called a trickle charger. Unless you are lucky enough to live in a climate where you can ride all year long, chances are your scooter will be put on ice, figuratively-speaking, for at least a couple months every winter. One of the key steps in winterizing a scooter is to protect your battery from draining during its 'rest' period.
This can – and will – happen if you leave your battery sitting untended in your cold scooter over the winter, even if it's in a garage or shed. Or to buy this highly recommended Battery Tender Jr NOW. Wondering why your scooter question never got posted?
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